Podcast: Waymo Leader Makes the Case For Robotaxis in D.C.

Does D.C. want robotaxis? Will Waymo kill jobs?

On the Dream City podcast, hear directly from Matt Walsh, Waymo's regional head of state and local public policy. Cuneyt Dil presses Walsh on labor’s warnings about lost driving jobs, the company’s safety record, and whether a multibillion-dollar technology company is prepared to make a significant investment in D.C. They also get into Waymo’s response to labor's accusations that it is trying to “steamroll” the city, the possibility of a deal with unions and Janeese Lewis George, and when riders might finally be able to take a driverless car to DCA or Dulles.

The Dream City Podcast holds the powerful accountable and takes you inside D.C.’s business and political worlds. Along the way: Revelatory conversations with city officials, business leaders, and the best-sourced journalists in town. Dream City is supported by SpotlightDC.

Podcast: Will D.C. Approve Waymo's Self-Driving Cars?

The fight over Waymo's self-driving cars in D.C. is shaping up to be a big one. Labor unions, which fear the loss of gig economy jobs, have already started protesting. Waymo counters that it will hire hundreds of people to maintain its robotaxis.

On the Dream City Podcast, Cuneyt Dil digs into the coming fight with Mark Segraves of NBC4. They also break down Vice President J.D. Vance's rental of a sprawling estate in Virginia and the valuable naming rights and seat licenses included in the Commanders stadium deal.

The Dream City Podcast holds the powerful accountable and takes you inside D.C.’s business and political worlds. Along the way: Revelatory conversations with city officials, business leaders, and the best-sourced journalists in town. Dream City is supported by SpotlightDC.

D.C. Tenant Advocates Sound Alarm About a RENTAL Act Loophole

Photo illustration of DC's Tenant Opportunity to Purchase Act being raised by cranes with a row of houses in the background.
(Maddie Poore)

The elevators in Harry Gural’s rent-controlled building on Connecticut Avenue haven’t been reliable for over a decade. It’s part of a string of maintenance problems that have plagued his older building. “They just haven’t fixed things for years and years and years,” he said.

But now, Gural wonders whether he should have a new concern: If his landlord significantly renovates the building to fix these outstanding issues, he and other tenants could be at risk of losing crucial rights.

Last year, the D.C. Council passed a bill overhauling the city’s housing law and significantly weakening major protections for tenants. Mayor Muriel Bowser first announced the Rebalancing Expectations for Neighbors, Tenants, and Landlords (RENTAL) Act in February 2025 — aiming, she said, to address a rent-delinquency crisis and encourage more private investment in market-rate housing. Housing and tenant advocates immediately sounded the alarm about the bill, arguing that it stripped tenants of their most crucial rights, including eviction protections and renters’ rights to buy their building. But most of the city’s lawmakers eventually rallied behind it.

“We are building housing too slowly,” Councilmember Robert White, chairman of the housing committee, said at the time. “We are driving landlords and investors away. We cannot lose sight of the impact on real people.”

The law passed later that year with 10 councilmembers voting in favor. Following pushback from advocates, some older buildings — like Gural’s — were spared the loss of some rights in the final statute. Advocates believed it was a hard-won reprieve in a law they broadly disliked. But less than a year after passage, developers, tenant advocates, and real estate attorneys say there is confusion about that supposed concession. Older buildings are being subjected to RENTAL Act rules even though legislators and advocates say they shouldn't be —  and it’s threatening to dramatically expand the number of tenants losing their rights.

At the center of the issue is the way the RENTAL Act erodes the Tenant Opportunity to Purchase Act (TOPA), a landmark housing law passed in 1980 in response to the city’s affordable housing crisis. The law gives renters the first right of refusal to buy their building or to choose a buyer when it goes up for sale. For D.C.’s renters, TOPA isn’t just a way to purchase their building — it’s also a tool they can use to negotiate with a potential buyer, pushing for things like repairs or caps on rent increases. Over the past 40 years, the law has created or preserved more than 16,000 affordable housing units, according to the Coalition for Nonprofit Housing and Economic Development.

One of the RENTAL Act’s most consequential changes included exempting all buildings constructed in the last 15 years from TOPA. While the RENTAL Act included a series of changes to TOPA, this one affected approximately 81,000 existing units and untold more in the future, creating a "historic loss of tenants’ rights," according to Mychal Cohen, a senior policy analyst at the DC Fiscal Policy Institute.

But today, ambiguous wording in the new law and confusing guidance from the Department of Housing and Community Development (DHCD) is creating uncertainty about what counts as a new building under the law, tenant advocates, developers, and real estate professionals told The 51st. Some sellers are already taking advantage of the lack of clarity and are marketing older, rent-controlled buildings that have been renovated as “new construction,” and thus also TOPA- exempt.

This behavior has undermined one of the slim tenant protections advocates were able to preserve in the law, they say. (In a last-minute amendment, most 2-4 unit buildings also lost their TOPA rights under the act). Tenant organizers fought to retain TOPA rights for tenants in renovated buildings, and the D.C. Council’s Committee on Housing said they excised that particular exemption for fear that landlords would rush to renovate just to wiggle out of TOPA. 

“Improvements are just part of what you do as a landlord,” said Gural, who is a longtime advocate for tenants’ rights. “I'm not sure why that should give you a TOPA exemption.”

Like many tenant organizers and advocates, he sees the change as linked to a larger unraveling of the city’s protections for renters in favor of commercial interests.

“Tenants are just run over like a truck, and they're looking for some hand in the destiny of their building, and that's why they find it offensive if their TOPA rights are eroded,” Gural said.

When New Means Renovated

As the RENTAL Act is written, a property can be exempt from TOPA if it receives a permanent certificate of occupancy for a “new multifamily building” in the last 15 years. This is a document that confirms a building has met all regulatory requirements and is officially safe for habitation. But the D.C. Department of Buildings (DOB) grants new permanent certificates of occupancy for substantial renovations to existing buildings as well as for new ones. This has led to confusion, said Dennis Cravedi, Senior Vice President at commercial real estate law firm Horvath & Tremblay. The law could be interpreted to say that a landlord who renovates or redevelops their existing building could also qualify for the TOPA exemption, he said.

The law doesn’t clarify what “new construction” means when it comes to this TOPA exemption, said DHCD spokesperson Timothy Wilson. The agency "interprets the law to mean that properties that underwent substantial rehabilitation or gut renovation are not exempt from TOPA unless they qualify under the new construction exemption, which requires a permanent Certificate of Occupancy issued within the past 15 years.”

This, however, is exactly the problem, advocates say. Applying DHCD’s interpretation means that an older property that undergoes a major modernization may be considered a new building after securing a brand-new permanent certificate, allowing landlords of decades-old buildings to claim the "new construction" shield.

According to a Department of Buildings (DOB) spokesperson, a newly issued permanent certificate of occupancy alone cannot prove whether a building is “new construction or a substantial renovation or conversion.” Identifying whether a building is actually new construction, they said, would require looking beyond the permanent certificate of occupancy to review the building permits and construction plans.

With the law so unclearly defined, local attorneys are bracing for confusion. Attorneys in the Real Estate Practice Group at law firm Ballard Spahr alerted clients after a January meeting with DHCD that a full rollout of formal guidance on the changes to TOPA could take up to two years, noting that parts of the law “are unclear and subject to interpretation.”

The real-world consequences of this regulatory confusion are already playing out in the market. A recent listing by brokerage firm Marcus and Millichap advertises a 36-unit property at 5010 Southern Avenue SE as completely TOPA-exempt new construction, although it’s more than 60 years old.

Lorenzo Wooten, the listing broker, told The 51st that the property was fully renovated in 2015. Wooten said DHCD explicitly advised him that because more than half of the building was renovated and received a new permanent certificate of occupancy in 2015, it qualified as new construction. (DHCD denies this, saying they have “not provided any formal or informal guidance establishing a renovation threshold for an exemption.")

Wooten is not the only one using an interpretation of the law that would exempt renovated buildings from TOPA protections. The Small Multifamily Owners Association, a landlord lobbying group, hosted a webinar in March where Terrence Laney, the administrator of the Rental Conversion and Sale Division — the part of DHCD that manages TOPA — suggested that buildings undergoing substantial renovations could qualify for the law’s 15-year TOPA exemption. (Laney has since been placed on leave amid accusations of conflicts of interest).

This interpretation threatens to exempt thousands of older renovated buildings that received new permanent certificates in the last 15 years. Just in the last two-and-a-half years, DOB issued 5,798 permanent certificates of occupancy, according to the agency’s own data. Of those, nearly 80% were for modifications to existing structures. New construction accounted for only 986 certificates.

Laney was asked in the webinar, which was reviewed by The 51st, if gut renovations qualified as new construction. His response was: "If the permanent certificate of occupancy has been issued in the last 15 years, which designates that as new construction, it is exempt."

Similar reliance on a permanent certificate of occupancy to determine whether a building is new is used in a sample letter for landlords to send to tenants included in DHCD's Frequently Asked Questions on the RENTAL Act.

This kind of conflicting guidance is alarming legislators and tenant advocates alike.

“I worry that there is misleading information coming directly from the D.C. government that may be confusing tenants about their rights,” said Mel Zahnd, Supervising Attorney in the Housing Law Unit at Legal Aid DC.

Confusing paper trail

Tenant advocates and legislators said that Laney’s interpretation misses what was clearly the spirit of the law.

Robert White, who just won the race to become D.C.’s delegate to Congress and helped shape the final version of the law and pushed for its passage, strongly disputes it, saying that the law was meant to exempt newly constructed buildings or office-to-residential conversions from TOPA protections, not additions or renovations.

“We expect the Executive to directly address allegations that DHCD is promulgating guidance contrary to the law's intent,” White’s office told The 51st. 

"The clear and unambiguous legislative intent was to limit the “new construction” exemption to actual new construction,” said Joel Cohn, legislative director for the Office of the Tenant Advocate, the D.C. agency that offers legal support for renters. 

Wilson said DHCD’s job, however, is to “apply the statute as written.” The agency is currently reviewing 13 claims of new construction exemption and said the agency’s role is to “evaluate documentation showing whether a property meets the criteria for new construction,” rather than assessing whether a property has been renovated or the scope of that renovation.

Wilson also said that “future rulemaking could provide additional clarity.” The risk to tenants is further heightened because DHCD doesn’t appear to confirm the existence of a permanent certificate of occupancy when reviewing claims for TOPA exemption. According to Wilson, the agency may find a TOPA exemption claim deficient if “materials are missing, incomplete, or clearly inconsistent with statutory requirements.” But if an issue isn’t identified, “it does not independently verify Certificates of Occupancy beyond this.” 

A review of DOB records for Wooten’s listing at 5010 Southern Ave SE, for instance, does not show a permanent certificate of occupancy issued in the past 15 years, and Wooten did not explain the discrepancy or provide a copy of the certificate to The 51st. Mercedes Lemp, President and CEO of Housing Up, the nonprofit that owns the property through an LLC, did not answer questions about the claimed exemption, simply sending a copy of the 1996 permanent certificate of occupancy in response.

DHCD’s limited verification could mean that if individual tenants receive a notification that their building is not subject to TOPA as a result of the RENTAL Act’s new construction exemption, it is up to them to challenge this claim on their own (or with the help of a tenant advocate, if they’re able to get one). While renters have opportunities under the law to challenge a TOPA exemption, the confusing nature of the exemption makes the process almost impossible for most tenants to navigate. 

With little protection for tenants, advocates are already seeing a wave of questionable exemptions.

According to Cohn, his office is flagging “very problematic language,” including “wild characterizations of the actual law,” in the exemption notices that landlords are issuing to tenants.

Tenants lose out in a changing market 

For tenants, the threat posed by this new potential TOPA exemption for renovated buildings — as well as the broader erosion of TOPA under the RENTAL Act — extends beyond maintenance concerns to a fundamental erosion of their influence.

“It’s not about buying the building,” said Gural, who recently received a notification from his landlord that he won’t have TOPA rights as a result of a different provision in the RENTAL Act (which his tenant association is challenging). “It’s about having a seat at the table … having a hand in deciding what happens to the building.”

It’s why advocates were so worried about the passage of the RENTAL Act — it included so many carve-outs to TOPA that it threatens to swallow the law entirely. The weakening of TOPA is all the more concerning, Gural said, given the growing influence of private equity on D.C.'s housing market. These large companies often boost profits by hiking rents and slashing services before eventually offloading the building. 

Moreover, the law’s effects on the market may not be what many proponents of the RENTAL Act intended. While supporters said that removing TOPA protections would encourage investment in new housing, some real estate industry professionals told The 51st that confusion around the application of the law has created uncertainty, which isn’t good for business. “The RENTAL Act didn't really move the needle one way or the other,” Cravedi said. "If the goal was to really change the market or investor perception in D.C., then no, it has not had a big impact.”

As real estate and title attorney Kevin Bayly observes, the market values predictability above all. "You may have liked it or not liked it,” he said of traditional TOPA rules, “but you knew how it worked.” 

One D.C. developer, who requested anonymity, was more blunt in his assessment of the legislation: “They fucked up.”


This story was edited by Abigail Higgins, Natalie Delgadillo, and Benny Peterson.

Podcast: The Socialist Sweep in D.C.'s Primaries

On the heels of a wave of democratic socialist victories in D.C.'s primaries, the Dream City podcast analyzes the results.

Aparna Raj, winner of the Ward 1 D.C. Council Democratic primary, tells hosts Cuneyt Dil and Tom Sherwood why she thinks a message of affordability resonated with voters. Chuck Thies, a veteran D.C. strategist, also breaks down Janeese Lewis Georges's sweeping mayoral primary victory, why Kenyan McDuffie’s campaign never found its footing, and what the results say about the city’s political direction.

The Dream City Podcast holds the powerful accountable and takes you inside D.C.’s business and political worlds. Along the way: Revelatory conversations with city officials, business leaders, and the best-sourced journalists in town. Dream City is supported by SpotlightDC

D.C. Spent $1 Million Hiring Humans to Yell ‘Fire!’ in Government Office

The entrance to the Marion Barry Building, including several glass doors and a sign saying, "Marion S. Barry, Jr. Building".
The Marion Barry Building. Photo credit: Darrow Montgomery

The D.C. government shelled out $1.01 million for a team of seven contractors to manually watch for fire inside one of the city’s largest office buildings at 441 4th Street NW, named after former D.C. mayor Marion Barry. This human fire watch was intended as a temporary stopgap while the city spent $529,835 repairing the building’s faulty alert system. But taxpayers continued to foot the growing bill for nearly a year while repairs dragged on and fire officials continued to declare the system out of service, according to interviews and records reviewed by the City Paper.

“A fire watch was put in place as a precautionary measure while repairs were underway. Following a comprehensive inspection conducted on April 15 with the Fire Marshal, the fire watch requirement was officially lifted,” Julia Jessie, a spokesperson for the Department of General Services, told City Paper in early May, adding later that “Prioritizing the safety of the occupants in the building is paramount and the fire watch was an essential service while repairs were underway.”

When asked about the length of time needed for the repairs—and the steep bill—Jessie explains, “This is an 800,000-square-foot, 12-story occupied facility, and safety systems must operate around the clock. That level of coverage, over several months, directly drives the cost.”

The Marion S. Barry Jr. Building’s fire watch ran from late May 2025 to April 15, 2026, according to the DGS spokesperson and records reviewed by City Paper.

Ward 4 Councilmember Janeese Lewis George helms the D.C. Council’s Committee on Facilities, which oversees government building maintenance at facilities like the Marion Barry Building. During her January committee oversight hearing, she heard testimony from an employee who works at the building about the fire watch, among other safety issues such as elevator outages. Since then, her office has requested details on the various issues, per a spokesperson.

“[Lewis George] is particularly concerned about the risks to employee safety and the liability that arises from falling or stuck elevators and the $100,000-per-month round-the-clock Fire Watch in lieu of functioning fire detectors and alarms,” the spokesperson tells City Paper

The D.C. Office of Risk Management was “aware” of the issues at the Marion Barry building, according to department spokesperson Jasmin Holmes. “Over the past year, we monitored the work being performed by DGS contractors to resolve outstanding concerns,” says Holmes. When asked if the office knew of any buildings with a fire watch that went on so long, Holmes says, “We are not aware of any other buildings operating under a fire watch.”

A shot of two elevators and their control panel.
The elevators at 441 4th St. NW. Photo credit: Darrow Montgomery

Five hundred “trouble” alerts

DGS set up the fire watch with the blessing of the District of Columbia Fire and Emergency Medical Services after a false alarm fire alert in May 2025 led employees to evacuate the Marion Barry Building, per an employee’s council testimony this year. Except, none of the alarms on the ninth floor went off, leaving those employees unaware of the (luckily nonexistent) fire below. 

A month later, an employee on the ninth floor “started an intense smoke-producing event in one of the break rooms when they accidentally microwaved a dry packet of noodles,” according to council testimony documents. The incident activated “industrial fans” to ventilate—but the floor’s smoke alarms again failed to go off. 

DGS then created the 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. workweek fire watch, hiring contractors from the ASAP Firewatch company in Fairfax, by submitting a plan to the Office of the Fire Marshal for approval. Fire watches are supposed to be a “short-term, emergency measure intended to provide an acceptable level of life safety when an unsafe or hazardous condition exists in a building or structure,” per FEMS’ policy, which emphasizes it is “only a compensatory measure.”

Fire inspectors visited the building several times between the original May incident and late 2025, originally finding nearly 500 “trouble” alerts plaguing the fire alert setup, per FOIA records. By August, DGS’ repairs had reduced the number of alerts to around 30. The same inspection logs also detail issues fire officials found with the fire watch itself: In June they were discovered to be understaffed by two contractors and the five contractors that were on-site were using cellphones to communicate instead of the required radios.

“The repair costs reflect the complexity of the building’s life safety systems,” DGS spokesperson Jessie says of the scale and scope of the system faults that had to be repaired. “Every floor contains interconnected fire alarms, sprinkler systems, mechanical equipment, and emergency systems that must all work together. Repairs are not isolated fixes. They require testing, coordination, and integration across hundreds of devices throughout the building to ensure the system functions as one.”

Jessie notes sourcing some of the aging building’s specialized parts “can extend timelines and cost.” 

FEMS declined to comment when asked for more information about inspections, the fire watch plan, elevator issues, and if there were plans to inform D.C. government employees or the public about the building’s safety issues.

“I used to work at 441,” Lewis George said of the Marion Barry Building during her January committee oversight hearing. “I don’t know how that building is still functioning and people are still functioning in it.”

D.C. government employee Zachary Love alleged during the same hearing that the building is rife with other “serious safety” issues, from roaches that have “fallen from the ceiling” onto employees, to the elevators. Love and other D.C. government employees have testified before the council as recently as two years ago with detailed complaints about having to pry themselves out of stuck elevators, and worse, elevators dropping with passengers trapped inside.

“To clarify, there have been no elevator ‘falls,’” says Jessie, when asked for details about the number of incidents. “Modern elevator systems include multiple built in safety redundancies designed to prevent that type of incident.”

“In some cases, elevators may temporarily malfunction or stop operating as intended, which can require assistance from building engineers or emergency personnel,” she says. “When an issue is reported through the elevator call system, notifications are received immediately and the elevator is taken out of service until it is inspected and cleared for operation.”

The Marion Barry Building hosts a staggering 14 elevators, all of which are currently being fitted with new doors and key components, which is expected to be completed by this fall, according to DGS. The department is currently seeking to replace and upgrade more elevator equipment, but funding for this expanded project may be in jeopardy as Mayor Muriel Bowser has proposed a 36 percent reduction to DGS’ municipal buildings maintenance budget for fiscal year 2027. This comes at a time when elevator repair costs and lead times in aging buildings across the U.S. are mounting, as mechanics in the niche industry retire and parts must increasingly be custom-made if they can be found at all.

Councilmember Lewis George tells City Paper she was “disappointed” by the mayor’s proposed cuts, which, she says, “will further limit DGS’s ability to prevent and repair facilities issues across all government buildings, including those in dire disrepair like the Marion Barry Building.”

The exterior of the Marion Barry Building--a gray office building with many windows--seen from across the street. Cars are parked along the road, and the sun shines in a blue, partly cloudy sky.
The Marion Barry Building. Photo credit: Darrow Montgomery

‘The hands and feet of the District’

The Marion Barry Building houses offices for dozens of D.C. government agencies, including the State Board of Education and the Office of the D.C. Attorney General, and used to house many more when the Wilson Building was closed for repairs

Originally named One Judiciary Square, the building is also a bustling center for D.C. residents. A destination for protests and parades, it has also operated as a polling place and hosted press conferences for the Metropolitan Police Department and Attorney General. Its council chambers are sometimes converted to cooling and heating centers, and the whole building was even considered as a bargaining chip for the RFK Stadium deal. Five years after the D.C. Council Chair Phil Mendelson proposed renaming the 441 after the late Marion Barry Jr., Bowser, and former first lady Cora Masters Barry hung a large mural in the lobby illustrating the former mayor’s legacy. 

The 12-story building has also been an expensive one in the District’s portfolio. The city spent $230 million over 20 years to lease, then finally purchase, the property. And despite improvement projects such as Pepco’s $7.5 million 2012 green energy retrofit, 441 still ranked in the top five most energy-inefficient D.C. buildings the next year. It has also been plagued by a variety of safety issues for more than a decade, with repeated inspector general reports finding the security screening could be foiled by people slipping around via the food court. 

Ward 2 Councilmember Brooke Pinto, who chairs the council’s public safety committee, declined to comment on the latest safety issues plaguing the Marion Barry building and referred City Paper to the Department of Buildings, where a DOB spokesperson declined to comment and referred the City Paper back to DGS.

“I think there is an impact most importantly to staff morale,” Marion Barry Building employee Love said during his January 2026 testimony. “Fire alarms and basic occupational safety are a cost of doing business, and if it is true that we are the hands and feet of the District government, then we are entitled to a minimum level of safety.”